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    Secrets in Shawano: Mayor's Lawsuit Moves Forward in Marathon County Save Email Print
    Posted: 4:36 PM Aug 21, 2008
    Last Updated: 7:44 PM Aug 21, 2008
    Reporter: Mikel Lauber
    Email Address: mlauber@wsaw.com


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    A lawsuit against the Samanta Roy Institute of Science and Technology and related businesses is moving forward in Marathon County.

    This defamation suit was filed by Shawano Mayor Lorna Marquardt in February of 2007. The Mayor says businesses and individuals related to Avraham Cohen defamed her.

    In May, we told you about Cohen, also known as Samanta Roy and Rama Bahera and the Institute of Science and Technology.

    As we showed you in our Secrets in Shawano series, the defendants are accused of publishing pamphlets and internet sites making fun of the mayor, calling her racist, and comparing her to Hitler and the Nazis.

    Now the case has moved to Marathon County court because of a potential conflict of interest in Shawano.

    A motions hearing was held in Marathon County court Thursday revolving around the depositions of people employed by the Samanta Roy Institute of Science and Technology, and Avraham Cohen himself.

    Court records show S.I.S.T. and the other defendants in this case have changed attorneys 3 times. The Mayor's attorney, James Chereskin, says the changes have caused delays in the case, and the cancellation of several depositions. "On 3 prior occasions we scheduled depositions, properly noticed", said Chereskin. "And about a week before the depositions were to occur, the defendants terminated representation with their lawyers, thus there were no lawyers to go to the depositions and they had to be cancelled. Most recently we cancelled the depositions because of Attorney Eisenberg's illness."

    In court Thursday, the defendants' attorney, Alan Eisenberg, made a motion that Abigail Theys, Naomi Issacson, and Linda Gray, employees of S.I.S.T., should not have to go to attorney Chereskin's office for the meetings, because he says they're afraid of him to the point of being visibly shaken. "They do not want to go to Mr. Chereskin's office", said Eisenberg. "For some reason Mr. Chereskin seems to take a hostile position on this."

    Attorney Chereskin denied the claims he intimidated those to be deposed. "It's totally untrue. I've never actually met Linda Gray or Abigail Theys, two who have filed affidavits in this matter", he said. "They're personally attacking me now. I've never run into this in my entire professional career."

    Attorney Chereskin agreed to hold future depositions at a neutral location. Attorney Eisenberg suggested the Shawano Best Western Hotel, where Mayor Marquardt was deposed during the course of this case.

    However, Chereskin objected, because the Hotel, which was the focus of Part 3 of our 'Secrets in Shawano' series, is an S.I.S.T.-owned property. Eisenberg, however, said it would be a good location for the depositions. "Judge, the conference room at that hotel, it's just a hotel", he said. " It's not a religious institution, it's not a business office, it's just a hotel with a huge conference room."

    Judge Greg Grau ruled future meetings should not be at the hotel, or attorney Chereskin's office, but another neutral location, that has yet to be determined.

    Attorney Chereskin also filed a motion, requesting that Avraham Cohen be required to appear for his deposition in person in the City of Shawano. But attorney Eisenberg objected, saying Cohen's a resident of Baltimore, Maryland, and has no reason to come to Shawano. "If he lives in Shawano, I'd like to know where he lives in Shawano", said Eisenberg. "He has no residence in Shawano. As an officer of the court, I'm telling you I have no information he lives in Shawano. He is a part of a corporate structure that holds some property there, but he most certainly doesn't live there." Eisenberg later explained Cohen's role in more detail, saying, "He's an officer of S.I.S.T. I believe he's the chairman of the board. But he's almost never in Shawano. Never, ever. He has an office in India where he teaches at a University, but his primary residence is in Baltimore."

    Judge Grau ruled that regardless of where Cohen lives, he is not required to appear in person for a deposition.

    But attorney Chereskin says a deposition of Avraham Cohen will still take place, likely by phone. He says it's expected to be important to the case. "[Attorney Eisenberg] indicated Avraham Cohen is the Chairman of the Board of S.I.S.T.", he said. "Based on that representation of the businesses, he's the head guy, his deposition becomes extremely important.”

    The first three depositions are scheduled for the end of September. A jury trial has been scheduled to begin in the case next August.

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    Posted by: FreeFromShawano on Sep 8, 2008 at 08:55 PM
    More hatred and abuse of Christians from that nest of demons called Orissa, India, Rama's home state. This just in from Open Doors USA: "Two weeks ago, Hindu extremists began attacking Christians due to false accusations that they were behind the murders of Hindu leader Swamiji Laxmanananda Saraswati and four of his disciples. "The attacks have resulted in the deaths of at least 100 Christians, two of whom were burned alive. The mobs also destroyed hundreds of houses and churches and forced thousands of Christians to flee for their lives into the surrounding jungle. "Despite the brutality of the violence against Christians, the Indian government has been slow to offer protection for the tiny minority of Christians who live in Orissa."

    Posted by: anon on Sep 3, 2008 at 05:53 PM
    Wow, it's been a while since someone's been arrested for Rama. Sign of things to come? I had always hoped that the next generation wouldn't have pay the price for our mistakes. I am truly sorry. Let's hope that things end before the next generation. He is 68 after all.

    Posted by: The Devil Location: Hell on Sep 2, 2008 at 08:39 PM
    Once again the lies of the DUMBO and the truthes of his ex-followers hath intimidated his puppets. Thus they hath shoved their mouths full RAMA toe jam. Spit forth the athletes foot and realize your manipulation does not have to take you to your graves. For the lord hath not sent serpents like RAMA to extort you in his name. MAKE OLD BIG EARS WALK THE PLANK!

    Posted by: Ghost Rider on Aug 31, 2008 at 10:49 PM
    What's wrong with SIST's intellect? Ramadum issues orders, and the puppets quietly dance to his music. It doesn't matter if the orders are illegal or devastating to Shawano's economy. It's time for the CYST to be drained of its deadly poison.

    Posted by: To Sick Aug 27 Location: Shawano on Aug 30, 2008 at 10:16 PM
    You said, "Nobody else in this city knows how to make it look nice. " Are you saying that Rama makes his properties in Shawano look nice????? Like the empty boarded-up, abandoned-looking ones that make the tourist city of Shawano look like s*!t? puh-lease.

    Posted by: Space boot? Location: HUH? on Aug 29, 2008 at 09:52 PM
    to ~ Anonymous on Aug 28, 2008 at 03:38 PM who in the hell are you talking to, or about?...You have done enough for rama, now its time to send out rama to do his own dirty work. I dare him to come face to face with any ex-member.

    Posted by: Oppression Location: in Shawano on Aug 29, 2008 at 09:03 PM
    Soon Rama and His Puppets will complain that Lamar Advertising, Reinhart Foods, the Oil Companies and the IRS have conspired with the Mayor, and had the GALL to send Rama a bill for goods and services purchased. What oppression! LMAO!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 29, 2008 at 08:25 PM
    Rombom rents an apartment in Baltimore that he shares with women and girls unrelated to him, he rents another apartment for his wife, and he has a fancy Taj Mahal house that he is "renovating", which will never be finished and lived in because Rama never finishes any project. The House of Tarps as well as an Annex of Tarps in Shawano are a few examples.

    Posted by: Anon on Aug 29, 2008 at 07:25 PM
    Does anyone know where in Baltimore Rama lives and what synagogues he goes to, etc...? Just curious.

    Posted by: Elina on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:40 PM
    Hey, Look up Naomi's and others' cases here: http://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl and for those who don't know rickross.com/groups/ramabehera is another good site to sort of keep up with articles on the goings-on.

    Posted by: The Bridge Troll on Aug 29, 2008 at 03:53 PM
    Hey, Ramadumdum! Is it true that you evicted the Ponderosa management from your building? Wow! What a brilliant move! So now you can kiss that rent money goodbye as it goes down the porcelain throne. What voice did you hear on the throne this time? But who cares, there has to be some suckers left who still think you are best profit around! They are ready to follow you to the kool-aid table. They don't need their money anyway. DOWN WITH THE RUMDUMB.

    Posted by: URGENT REQUEST Location: POWERFUL SUPPORTING EVIDENCE on Aug 29, 2008 at 01:22 PM
    Would somebody in Shawano (a law abiding citizen or WSAW) please print this article and this "Comments" section and deliver it to Ms. Marquardt's attorney. The court of law and all concerned will be well served to read the powerful and outrageous and shocking threats and defamatory statements made by Rama and Kal Gronvall and other cult members. Physical threats and defamatory statements, all part of the Comments section of an article ABOUT A DEFAMATION SUIT AGAINST THE CULT. Surely this emboldened conduct will not go over well, and it will further undermine the false claims of the cowards & Rama sex slaves like disgusting wh*re Naomi and others who will soon be disbarred for their perjury and lies and criminal fraud. Indeed, this blog of Comments could be admitted as a trial exhibit. Down with the fraud Rama and his evil empire! TO WSAW:: Please keep up the excellent and courageous coverage! You are cracking the foundations of this great castle of abuse and torture and crimes.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired on Aug 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM
    What are you sick n tired of? Maybe being a pawn in RAMADUNG's game of chess. You're a hypocrite just like the ventriloquist that tugs on your strings (RUDUMB). Somebody made this reference "he better be very careful the next time he's in Shawano" and you can compare that to physically threatening the people on this blog with baseball bats...saying that we should be put in concentration camps and gassed. Then you make assertions about somebody should shoot through the police station...if you think that these are even comparable to somebody making a vague reference about how DUMBO should be careful next time he is in Shawano. then you are an idiot. why would it matter anyways since RUMBLEDUMBLES is "never ever in shawano" remember! oh yeah more filthy lies. now you are saying goodbye to the blog and website. why with such haste? is it because you put more evidence out there for the mayor's case? you are a puppet on a string. pull rama's hand out of your a** and wake up KAL!

    Posted by: Anon on Aug 28, 2008 at 06:31 PM
    Don't post attacks unless you can follow through. As for this being the last time you read and post, I doubt it. You are addicted to your problems but when it comes time to face them and create remedies, you are too afraid to stand up for yourself. It doesn't have to involve a physical fight, but rather a spiritual and emotional one, with yourself. And guess what? We're on your side. The one that is "sick n' tired" of being a puppet, of being used for someone else's whim.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 28, 2008 at 03:38 PM
    Beards, tats, and scooters, sounds scary (shaking in my space boots!)

    Posted by: to sick and cowardly on Aug 28, 2008 at 03:24 PM
    funny how sick n tired changed their tune suddenly as if rama himself had the fist firmly up the puppet's you know what for manipulation and pleasure. sick and cowardly, rama, you're a gangster and a laughing stock and a poison on this earth. may you die a miserable slow tortuous death and rot in jail as someone's slave.

    Posted by: to Sick N Tired on Aug 28, 2008 at 02:30 PM
    "This is supposed to be a free country and it is clearly seen that it is not"- This is a free country however you are not free to do whatever the hell you want to do, like abuse people. If everyone did whatever they wanted to do this country would be chaos. That's why there are laws. Rama, like everybody else must obey laws of the USA or suffer the consequences.

    Posted by: Freedom Fighter Location: Underground railroad on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM
    BOYCOTT SLAVERY! Boycott Rama's businesses!

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
    It is not worth fighting. I am a person who would rather not physically fight. Talking to any of you would not be worth it anyway because you are so determined to be ignorant. This is supposed to be a free country and it is clearly seen that it is not. You go ahead and enjoy your visit to Lambeau, save your handsome face so you can watch them get beat. And the last thing is that I find it very disrupting that you guys can post threats on here "he better be very careful the next time he's in Shawano" but for us supporters it is so unlawful-see what I mean by unfairness. This is exactly what I am talking about. Good-bye WSAW and all you haters I will never be visiting this site again and that is a promise this time.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired Location: Here on Aug 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM
    If you live in one of Rama's apartments as you claim, why is it you haven't mentioned the fact that WE Energies turned off the gas a week ago. Another bill unpaid! Now how in the world are you going to blame the Mayor for that? Did WE Energies put in some meters that charge the apartments too much too? Get a grip, any problems the Ramas have, they created themselves and you know it.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM
    "The people working at these businesses do so whole heartedly." WHOLE-HEARTEDLY according to WHOM? Rama? If everyone who worked in those businesses did so happily, why have so many of the slaves escaped or run off to avoid the daily drudgery? Anyone who works 20 out of 24 hours 365 days a year is NOT a volunteer, he/she is a SLAVE. These people are slaves in part because they are not strong enough people to stand up to Rama and say no. They are also slaves because if they did not do Rama's bidding Rama would take away their families, scream and yell at them, and tell the other group members to harrass them, physically hurt them and otherwise punish or treat them badly. These people have no choice except to slave for Rama. Except, they could escape Rama's clutches by running off but they would leave dear family behind, an option many won't consider.

    Posted by: hey sick Location: meet me coward i dare you on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:50 AM
    hey sick and tired, here's the deal. do your pushups and get your pep talk from rame coward your hero --- meet me on Sunday at Lambeau field parking lot, front and center by the main entrance, i'll be there with my buddies to videotape it to wipe the asphalt with you and any of the tom nett cowards you bring. see you sunday if you have the stones to do it. i'll be there and waiting. I'll be the guy in the Packer's jersey and the face that you will surely recognize i guarantee it--i will haunt you all. bring it!

    Posted by: It's me again Location: AR Stock on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:46 AM
    I love North Dakota!!! Seriously, if you want to know who I am, look me up....it's not hard to find me. www.myplace. Come on, use a braincell or two. I'd really be interested to know who can crack the code. By the way...Good Luck in ripping my head off or getting close to any member of my family, friends or even the rat the runs across my sidewalk.

    Posted by: It"s Me Location: On The Couch on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:39 AM
    Please read this before continuing to make and further threats. Sorry there are no pictures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

    Posted by: Its Me Location: whereever on Aug 28, 2008 at 12:16 AM
    Sick N Tired ~ Ok...Bat across my face? I will laugh at you! Try coming on my ground one time? Read the laws in North Dakota! Yeah, thats where I live. Do you really want to see my face? Doubt it! Aryan Brotherhood mean anything to you?

    Posted by: Healthy N Well-Rested on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:57 PM
    Well as you can see I am healthy and well rested! Why you ask? Because Old Big EARS has not oppressed me any longer therefore I am not forced into slave labor and can eat food with some sustenance! It's funny how RUDUMB sends his most idiotic follower out to smear more RAMA DUNG all over this blog! I mean what a complete waste of existence RAMA! Your wonderful tactic of claiming to not be a part of the group does you no good when you threaten the mayor and other posters on this blog. Don't you realize that all of these blogs can be traced via ISP. Now if the mayor's head were to knocked off or a public building were to be shot at I think they would have a pretty good idea who it was! Don't you think KAL? Tell your diaper wearing, child molesting, human oppressing psycho of a leader that we are coming for him. He better be extra careful next time he's in Shawano. The devil has your number and you will rot in HELL for your iniquities! DOWN WITH RUDUMBO!

    Posted by: Commentary Location: Wherever on Aug 27, 2008 at 08:18 PM
    Rama used to alternate his ideology between extolling Hitler one minute and trashing Hitler's Germany the next minute. I don't know what he was trying to get at. Does Rama read Mein Kampf?

    Posted by: to red rebel on Aug 27, 2008 at 05:58 PM
    Manasseh Goldberger was in Maryland at one time because he slave labored on Rama's Taj Mahal in Baltimore. He's originally from MN.

    Posted by: Saddened on Aug 27, 2008 at 04:27 PM
    Kal has been one of Rama's most zealous and devoted followers for 35 years. Kal has given up all for Rama-his marriage, children and extended family, a career, house, true faith in God, peace and rest, everything and anything that matters in life. Kal has taken the blame and continues to take the fall for Rama's dirty work in connection with SIST. After all that Kal has sacrificed for Rama, KAL IS STILL SCUM TO RAMA. Rama yells at him in the meetings and tells him he's going to rot in hell. Rama considers Kal such a bad person that Rama directed the ultimate insult at Kal. He told Kal's son Manasseh to change his last name from Gronvall to Goldberger. Sick N Tired, if you would be honored to be named Kal Gronvall, why doesn't your leader think so? Why has Rama pitted son agaist father, and made this son ashamed of his father. Think about it.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 03:08 PM
    If you think your meter rates are being made artificially higher by anyone, then COMPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION. They are the agency charged with regulating the utility and to make sure that nothing illegal is happening

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 01:53 PM
    You won't have a face to look at. Go ahead and show it.

    Posted by: Former Member Location: Shawano County on Aug 27, 2008 at 01:34 PM
    If Sick-n-Tired is not a member of the cult, why does he think Lorna is messing with his electric bill? What an idiot.

    Posted by: To Sick on Aug 27, 2008 at 01:03 PM
    (continued) The city of Shawano has been very patient and kind, within the framework of the law, trying to let Rama know that he is not in control of the city. After three decades, why can't poor Rama get it? Every day he goes farther into debt and digs his hole deeper. From the notes I took in his meetings, I find more than once Rama upheld Hitler as a great leader. In the Sunday meetings he told us how Hitler spent many hours at Napoleon's grave site. Rama needs to realize that following Hitler will lead him to the same disasterous end. Rama wants to be a Jew (that's where the money is) -- what Jew would uphold Hitler? This Indian villager makes no sense at all.

    Posted by: To Sick on Aug 27, 2008 at 01:02 PM
    Could you please start thinking and use some common sense? The mayor and eveyone in Shawano that is opposing Rama is doing him a great service. Rama has devatated hundreds of lives. He has caused the breakup of marriages, families, financial ruin, and in some cases deaths, to all of his followers and their extended families. Rama has brought confusion, unrest, and concern to the city residents. The result of 35 years of calls from his guard ladies for protection on Frailing Road has been needless trouble and expense to the city and its government. It's so simple -- why can't he see? Rama is nothing but an Indian villiager with a lot of crazy, big ideas. He needs to understand that he can't come to the USA and tell everyone what to do just because he hears voices giving him instructions all day. What are these voices -- where are they from?

    Posted by: the ramas are hanging themselves! on Aug 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM
    how absolutely STUPID are dung rama and his puppetss--here, in the comments section of a story about a defamation suit they are posting DEFAMATORY COMMENTS ABOUT THE MAYOR! wow, fake jew child molester coward rama--you are truly showing how you indeed have NO BRAIN. and yet you claim to be a doctor and professor!!!! DEAR SHAWANO: BOYCOTT THIS ILLEGAL ALIEN ANIMAL AND HIS EVIL EMPIRE. maybe his followers will be liberated from his evil. hey sick n tired--you don't have the guts to look any of us in the face and you know it.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM
    So now one of you wants to call themselves sick N tired and say you are from the cult. Once again I WILL SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR I AM NOT FROM THE CULT. I could rip all your heads off right now. This is getting to be plain straight ridiculous. Just for the record I have had everything checked out regarding my electric bill being so high. It is plain straight that Lorna has told all her supporters to oppress this organization and she is trying to do that but guess what they are a lot smarter than she thinks. This is my last post because all of you continue to make up more and more stories. Let me see your face come on. Bring it on.

    Posted by: TO: Sick N Tired; 07:44 PM on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:33 AM
    What Ramabonics here. "take her clothes off" - that is a typical rama phrase. Who's on Rama's wh0re list now? The Mayor of Shawano? You have got to be kidding! He can't keep his own pants up so he switches the focus of attention to the Mayor. Great tactic, we all see through it.

    Posted by: Former Member Location: Shawano County on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM
    to Sick N Tired: You are a sad disgrace to the few followers of Rama who actually ARE decent people underneath their Rama facade. Why don't you commit yourself for a mental health evaluation? It is obvious that you are dangerously close to harming yourself or others. The hateful and extreme rhetoric you display is NOT NORMAL.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired cont on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
    Now who has the facts. Now you can see why all you haters and hippo worshipers should be gased. That would be too nice of treatment though. Why haven't we heard from the lying cheating overcharging hippo? She knows very well that she is doing it. You can cont to put your lies and hate of this group on here but that is all that they are. The people working at these businesses do so whole heartedly. I jusy wish I could meet everyone of you with a bat acrossed your faces. Now you know why shootings happen because people get sick of how unfair this gov't works. Its amazing these people haven't taken you hater's out yet.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:28 AM
    I feel very honored to be named Kal. Wow if you only knew who I am. I will not state my name for I know the hippo would sent her crooks to my door to try and get me out of this apartment. Well that will never happen; shr can offer me jewels and gold plates but I would never take them. I would literally spit in her face and possibly knock her head off completely. I detest this woman for all her crooked and unjustness. Soon this group will own the whole city and I will be rejoicing and dancing in the streets. Nobody else in this city knows how to make it look nice. You wonder why these people cannot hire people from outside their group - well why don't you think about it. Can any of you be trusted to not cheat or steal? ABSOLUTELY NOT - look how the somebody shot at the window at the Spirit of the North Woods building. Did that get investigated, no, because our great police don't investigate drive by shootings. They sure would if I drove by & shot at their bldg or Lorna's house.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:09 AM
    Hey look at me I am a complete idiot. So, I am going to wish death on a bunch of people that I know nothing about because I claim to not even be a part of this CULT. Then I am going to make accusations that my electric bill is higher than somebody else. WOW> LOOK AT THE PUPPET> RAMA HAS HIS HAND UP MY A**

    Posted by: to the numbers person Location: you are TELLING THE TRUTH on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:08 AM
    the person posting points (1) through (17) didn't miss a single step--each and every one of those points is 100% TRUE AND FACTUAL. i wish the authorities and the trial counsel and all the world would read these points. this is a purely evil cult operation at every level. it must be snuffed out and terminated and its illegal alien leader rama should be deported to a child molester's prison deep in the heart of india where he should endure the torture that he put upon his innocent children victims over the years. bravo to the blogger who posted 1-17---those are wise and true words!

    Posted by: to all shawano residents Location: boycott rama businesses! on Aug 27, 2008 at 10:00 AM
    you all must be so fed up by now, shawano residents!!!! boycott all the businesses and let them dry up and die. all they do is feed an abusive cult leader who hides money from the government and pays his cult workers NOTHING. please don't fund this pure evil any more! BOYCOTT THE RAMAS. back to the india dung hut with the fraud criminal child molester!!!!!

    Posted by: goldberger on Aug 27, 2008 at 09:55 AM
    goldberger is actually from minnesota stolen from his family and molested by his father, kal and by filthy cockroach child molester and tax fraud rama dung. he was forced to changed his last name - he needs to be rescued from that cult where he lives in fear of rama, who takes all his money and exploits him for free manual labor.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 09:24 AM
    ok i'll come clean. i AM a member, a spineless brainwashed member who believes that name calling like a first grader is the way to go, even though i'm an adult age. i also have no education and like to work like a slave for free, for my holy savior and cockroach master of dung fake doctor jew who belongs with the rest of the sewage in the india river. anyway, i am great because i know how to call people names, and also i'm a big coward and will run scared if i ever ran into any former members. ok i'm going back now to making fudge and cooking short order room service for hotel guests! because that's what i always wanted to do, growing up.

    Posted by: Proof? on Aug 27, 2008 at 08:25 AM
    "You all know very well how terribly unfair Lorna is. She calls the police and tells them to do certain things and they do it for oh boy they may loose their funds." Do you have any proof this is true, or are you saying that because Rama said so? The police cannot "do certain things" just because they want to. They can only arrest people if they have violated a law. If police are not following the law, go to court and tell the court that. Our government has a system of checks and balances that in Rama's group does not exist. When Rama says someone is unfair, that means he did not get what he wants, whether the law permits it or not.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 27, 2008 at 06:53 AM
    How do you know others don't have to pay higher electric bills? The price of fuel has gone up significantly recently, and gas and electricity, even food costs more because of that. Are you going to blame the higher cost of food on Lorna too? Why don't you blame the rich oil companies for it, or the Saudis for hogging the oil-that is more realistic. Come on, read the news and be informed of local, national and world happenings and how it affects your life and your pocketbook. Rama should not be your only source of knowledge.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 01:12 AM
    You may be tired, but I know for a fact that you are truly sick. If you can believe and say that "all of (us) need to be hauled to a NAZI style concentration camp and gassed” (murdered) because we don't agree with you, then you are indeed sick and need a good physical with a top notch MD who can determine what illness occupies your head. If you have the ability to do some investigating, check to see if there is another electrical line coming off of the meter outlet. This could account for your high electrical bills. After all, your building is owned by Rama, and for him to steal electricity from you fits in well with his extortion practices. Do not just assume that Lorna came by some night and switched out your electric meter. That idea is preposterous. Lorna has better things to do. Your general writing suggests that your communications skills and sentence structure have deteriorated, and reality is getting away from you. Do yourself a favor and get some medical care pronto.

    Posted by: to sick n tired on Aug 27, 2008 at 12:54 AM
    Calling someone a "fool" or "idiot" is not going to help you deal with a frustrating situation. If you are angry about this problem, find a new apartment/landlord. Move out of town. You are not stuck in your current situation. And why go so upset about other people and what they do with their lives? If they are hurting you, leave. Go live in a community where you can be happy, where no one bothers you. You say down with the Haters but you are so angry that hate is coming out of your mouth as well. Relax and enjoy life, you only have one after all.

    Posted by: to Sick on Aug 26, 2008 at 11:17 PM
    You should check with your landlord regarding your high electric bills--follow the wires. I would not be surprise Rama is stealing electricity from you so that his slaves who live in those apartments wont have to pay electricity. Also check with your electric company--maybe there is a mistake along the way, ask them. What is the name of your electric company? Many gas and electric companies are privatized meaning they are private companies and are not tied to government in any way. If that is the case, it is not possible for Lorna to manipulate your electric bill because she has no access at all and you are needlessly paranoid. What kind of heat does your apartment have. Furnace or electric heat? If you have electric heat, maybe something is wrong with your heaters that are making them inefficient and a simple maintenance procedure could fix the problem. Or maybe they are outdated and need to be replaced and you would have to take that issue up with your landlord.

    Posted by: Strip Club Location: Blue tarp freedom on Aug 26, 2008 at 11:08 PM
    So, i see Mr. Dumbo is suddenly changing his/her story? First he is not the dothead, coward hiding behind toddler blonde girls in Baltimore trying to change his name for the sake of his jewish heritage, then a light bulb goes off and he is a resident of Baltimore and he has no ties to Shawano? Which is it mr Spineless COWARD? You are nothing but the excrement that my little pooch leaves in the royal grounds of your fudge shop mr "MidWest this" and "Midwest that". Coward, Liar, Fraud, Child Molester, Money Launderer, Tax Evasioon Specialist, did I mention child molester? Come forth from hiding behind the skirts mr bigshot! Come out! I want to see your great dot head, Why dont you put a rag back on your head and head back to your great "university" and teach your fellow hindu Sadhus houw to manipulate our system here in the real midwest. Until then get back in your tunnel on Frailing Road and SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: red rebel Location: shawano on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:52 PM
    dear sick and tired about your two last comments i sure wish i knew what the hell you were talking about. P.S. your boy in the red hats name is Manasseh Goldberger yea that guy was a real work of art he's not even fron WI you had him flown in from MD he was a real credit to your cult oh yes you claim to be here for the people as long as there spending money ay your buisnesses but as soon as your expected to pay your fair share of taxes then the whole city is filled with nothing but a bunch of damn Nazi's strong word from a cult that 98% of there mambers are of German decent.you know you Ramas have been doing the same song and dance for over 30 years after being jerked around for that long the citizens of Shawano just dont believe the Ramas anymore and i don't blaim them

    Posted by: Chester Location: BLUE TARPS WEARING THE RED HAT on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:57 PM
    Chester the Molester and "Eisenberg" have taken a short bathroom break. They shall return shortly. Men and bretheren "hold your piece". The word of ALLAH shall follow shortly. Amen

    Posted by: Chester Location: lost in the wilderness on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:54 PM
    Ehh? Hear ye, hear ye!!! Surely a vision from moses hath come forth. Behold as we were visiting the facilities this morning, you guessed it, a vision hath come forth from the porcelain throne again. Dr. Dumbo hath surely moved his empire of extortion and molestation to the east coast. The city of his fellow "brain surgeon" jews, Baltimore. Well, lets get to the facts, eh? Two months ago Dumbo's attorney says on the record that Dumbo is most certainly not the masked molester in the picture shown in Baltimore trying to change the Samanta Roy name to COHEN. And, he has no ties to Baltimore. Well, suddenly the word of the lord hath changed! Hope you didn't blink! The cameleon hath suddenly become a resident of Batlimore and now he hath no ties to Shawano? Hmm! What a wise Sadhu. Surely the wisdom of Solomon hath come upon him. DOWN WITH THE FRAUD!!! CHESTER THE MOLESTER IS CHEWING ON the skirts of his blonde girls now. SOMEBODY HIDE ME! MY LIES ARE FINDING ME OUT. I AM WATCHING THE FRAUD!!

    Posted by: To Sick on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:44 PM
    (14) Most followers are allowed to keep only enough of their money to barely survive -- the rest goes to rama. (15) They pretend to homeschool their children, but no one has time to teach them. Fourteen-year-olds are at the 4th grade level, and one eight-year-old has barely begun to read due to parental neglect. (16) Followers are screamed into submission with merciless verbal abuse. Those closest to rama are yelled at the loudest -- that is why they are so submissive. (17) Rama has doctors, lawyers and teachers so brainwashed they can no longer think for themselves. How else could educated people be so stuck in this insanity? It sounds like you are one of them. By supporting rama you are an accomplice to his crimes -- do you realize that? You are helping his followers to continue in their suffering day after agonizing day. WAKE UP!!!

    Posted by: To Sick on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:43 PM
    (8) They are afraid to talk to them because they have been taught that the iniquities of their fathers will bring curses upon them and take them into eternal darkness. (9) Rama has whipped his followers with electrical cords, beaten them with boards and pulled their hair. (10) If he did not have time to do it himself, he instructed brothers to beat their siblings, and fathers to whip their children themselves. (11) Rama keeps his followers till no earlier than 10:30 pm on Sunday nights before releasing them to drive hundreds of miles to get back just in time for work Monday morning, with little sleep. (12) Three men died in car wrecks from sleep deprivation. (13) Others have awakend just in time to avoid other head on collisions.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 09:41 PM
    To all the friends of the ramas (or to all the lying, faking ramas who pretend to be Shawano residents): ENOUGH!!! Anyone with a functioning brain can see through all your stupid lies. You are wasting your time. Let me remind you: (1) All of your friends are slaves. (2) They work 24/7 and are not paid one cent. (3) They have no time off ever to cook meals, do laundry, or clean the holes they live in. (4) Those who were unfortunate enough to be born into the cult have never met their grandparents, aunts, uncles, or cousins. (5) They have been lied to and taught that they are evil agents of satan and if they interact with them they will be cursed and go to hell. (6) These poor children live under the threat that if they leave the cult they will become criminals, prostitutes, drug addicts, and/or die an untimely death. (7) Many of those who came into the cult in the 70s have not seen their parents, siblings, grandparents for over three decades.

    Posted by: Former Member Location: Sweet Liberty on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:59 PM
    So, Sick N Tired, you said, "All of you need to be hauled to the concentration camps and gased [sic]." That is quite the strong and hateful statement. Maybe YOU are Hitler. I don't hear Lorna saying things like this. Listen to yourself, and get a clue!

    Posted by: to sick and tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:23 PM
    sick n tired - you have now publicly stated that people should be gased in the gas chambers. now THAT has let all of us know you're a crazy demented person with no credibility. you shouldn't be allowed to drive, work, walk freely, or procreate. but the thing is,we all know who you are, KAL. you're a joke and a mockery. you can't hide. this is a nation of laws and communication. driving your own son to be jailed. both of them need to leave and join their family, and get away from this small time crook cult with its fantastic lies. hello kal! can you please be my financial advisor too? i understand the world is coming to an end, too! go jump off a bridge.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:44 PM
    I know which company installed my meter after all I have to write the check every month you fool so I know the facts. Why don't you who have such good relations with the f--king hippo(Lorna)have to pay such high prices. It is she that wants all the $. Where is all the extra $ going does anybody ever answer that question? It must go to her strip club admittance fee, oh I have mistaken, she with her dirty filthy tricks gets in free to take her clothes off. I know my facts so don't even think of questioning them you idiot.

    Posted by: To Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 05:28 PM
    Who installed and maintains your electric meter? Get the facts before spewing forth your own venom.

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 03:43 PM
    Down with the HATERS. You are vipers and snakes of lies. Do you not see how the judges decide on their cases - against the businesses. They decide this way because they are told so by Lorna not because they are following the law. Just rot, just die.

    Posted by: red rebel Location: shawano on Aug 26, 2008 at 02:48 PM
    the Ramas where there to intimadate anybody trying to remove equpment from the property you see they wanted to just walk into fully furnished fully established Ponderosa steak house. yes Rama did own the building and the land it was on but the equipment inside he did not own nor did he or any of his agents offer to buy the furnishings inside they didnt even try to obtain a franchise from Pondorosa and anything left inside after midnight would belong to Rama. the man in the red hat was there only to prevoke someone into hitting him so that the Ramas could file a lawsuit

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 02:09 PM
    Go ahead a call me a member. You really have my blood boiling now. Go ahead and look up the property taxes for all the properties and compare them for yourself you seem to find all the other records without a problem. All of you need to be hauled to the concentration camps and gased. Another example is the electric meters. I live in one of the apartment buildings owned by this group and suddenly my electric bill is out of the book. My friend two buildings away never has a bill like mine and he is home all day with the TV on etc. All the other apartment renters are saying the same thing. You all know very well how terribly unfair Lorna is. She calls the police and tells them to do certain things and they do it for oh boy they may loose their funds. Everybody who is for these people are told they have to get away or they will be oppressed by Lorna. I don't have to give names you know all of it. When anyone speaks out against this unfair treatment they are locked up or fined. Go to hell.

    Posted by: Chuckling Location: Here on Aug 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM
    If any of Rama's allegations were true about Shawano officials, why does he not sue them all like he typically tries to do, instead of name-calling and making public false accusations? Maybe because his claims are so outrageous any person with half a brain would laugh him out of court! So he resorts to thuggery! DOWN WITH RAMDOM!

    Posted by: Bucket Passer Location: Deep in Lake Shawano on Aug 26, 2008 at 11:39 AM
    If even one of Rama's (and his PUPPETS) allegations were true, then why doesn't he get the hell out of this oppressive Shawano, and start a new colony on some deserted pacific island? No taxes, no higher rates, no oppressive government, no higher prices, and no police to trouble him. Then Kal could be the Dr. Mengele and decide which children should be next for Rama's sadistic abuse!! What a great idea!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 26, 2008 at 11:38 AM
    red rebel, do you have any more details on the Rama confrontation? Why were they all there?

    Posted by: to Lorna deserves all the names on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM
    You are a liar. You are a member of this cult as well as a PUPPET of RAMA. Rama is the only person I have known in my whole life who has ever called anyone Hitler. Rama has a preoccupation with Hitler and its no wonder, he follows him! And, please tell me, what makes Rama so "honorable"?

    Posted by: red rebel Location: shawano on Aug 26, 2008 at 10:22 AM
    i spent yesterday trying to help the employees at ponderosa close down shop and was met by the Ramas takeing pictures and trying to cause a confrontation. good thing one of our people had a video camra to catch the Ramas crap on tape it was fun to watch that Rama Dope with the red cap get arrested and in the end Rama got what he paid for and NOTHING ELSE!!! it was a good day indeed

    Posted by: Still Watching Location: Shawano County on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:48 AM
    "Everyone can see the crooked tactics"??? "One-sided stories"? Rama and his followers have been asked for their side of the story, but they refuse to give it. The only crooked tactics I see are from Rama/Brother/Doctor/Avraham or whatever he is being called at the moment.

    Posted by: Former member on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:37 AM
    re Sick N Tired: Who was Rama's scribe this time? Kal? Naomi? Linda? Abigail? Get a grip before you end up in prison with him and/or for him. Quick!

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: in Shawano on Aug 26, 2008 at 08:15 AM
    ok, facts please, specific examples please. Who pays higher taxes than whom? Who is charged outrageous prices while others pay pennies, who operates illegally while others get fined. This "oppression" is not plain as day - examples please!

    Posted by: to Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:41 AM
    Please post the facts as you see it. I am a resident of Shawano and want to know your facts. Thank you.

    Posted by: the haters, the victims now heard on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:32 AM
    no one would hate Rama if he paid his workers like a normal businessman, did not abuse those closest to him and did not pit family member against family member. That is evil, pure and simple, and you can not blame a former member for dispising Rama. DOWN WITH RAMA.

    Posted by: Guess Who Location: Sick N Tired on Aug 26, 2008 at 07:31 AM
    To Sick N Tired - Cry me a river. Romdom is always playing the poor me card. If he did things legally and played by the rules of the land, things may not be so hard for him. But we all know ex-members and current members that he is lying through his teeth about everything. There is no way that a city or anybody can tax someone higher than the other person down the road. So keep on crying - we don't care. DOWN WITH ROMDOM!

    Posted by: Lorna deserves all the names on Aug 25, 2008 at 11:29 PM
    The name calling will not end with this trial. Lorna's unfair treatment will continue and so will the name calling. Since when do laws change and or are made up so quickly, since when are lines redrawn, since when are meters changed, since when is it fair to charge these businesses higher rates for everything. All the names are deserved. I am resident of this community, not a MEMBER of this so called cult, and it makes me sick to see how she continues to charge all her officials to treat everyone involved with this honorable man so horribly. Hitler is a great name for her. She is doing no different than he did.

    Posted by: Fed up and sick & tired on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:58 PM
    Rama stop your whining about oppression and pay your bills and taxes on time. Do what everyone else is required to do and you wouldn't be slapped with fines. If you weren't fined, THAT would be unfair to all the other business that do pay their taxes and fees on time. I want one example of how Rama has to pay higher taxes, how he is charged more than anyone else. Just one. Shawano is a very friendly and fair town and Rama knows it. If he has been oppressed for 30 years like he says, why would he open businesses and buy property in such town? That would not make much business sense if that were the case. And Rama is supposed to be a smart business man, right?

    Posted by: To Sick... on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:34 PM
    Can you be specific? What proof do you have that you have to pay higher taxes? What are you charged outrageous prices for which others pay pennies for? Who is visibly operating illegally doing what illegal practices?

    Posted by: Sick N Tired on Aug 25, 2008 at 04:31 PM
    Everywhere one turns in Shawano there is so much crooked tactics to ruin the businesses and properties of these people. Everyone can see it plan as day. If one would really look at the facts instead of all the onesided stories from the haters, you can clearly see that it is all oppression. They have to pay higher taxes, are charged outrageous prices for something everybody else pays pennies for, and are slapped fines when everybody else visibly operates illegally. It is time the town of Shawano and its oppressive officials stop this injustice.

    Posted by: To Ramarosa on Aug 25, 2008 at 03:16 PM
    Well, if there is no gas to pump and they turned of the natural gas to his hotels (I'm sure no one wants to take cold showers) then what else are his slaves going to do? He can probably buy food on credit for a while...

    Posted by: Ramarosa on Aug 25, 2008 at 08:19 AM
    Is that true that Rama is going to take over Ponderosa? I hope for the sake of the followers/slaves it isn't true! Rama is having a hard enough time trying to find slaves to staff the businesses he does have. Those slaves already work at least 10-12 hours a day. He can't afford to buy gas for his gas stations (I am sure he squanders or launders profits), how is he going to buy food to serve at Ramarosa?

    Posted by: EenyMeenyMo Location: sandpile watching on Aug 24, 2008 at 07:18 PM
    Watch out for tricks. If Rama gives a deposition by telephone, from who knows where, and with no court reporter present, what is there to make Rama honest and to disallow the presence of other scheduled witnesses? Collusion, and conspiracy among other litigants are fertile breeding grounds in such an environment.

    Posted by: look it up on Aug 24, 2008 at 02:34 PM
    everyone remember that recently rama denied living in baltimore, when the "avraham cohen" story first broke, and he insisted (thru his lawyer b/c he is a coward) that he had no connection to baltimore and was in reality a shawano resident. this story is easy to find!!!! these lies are so typical. this coward with his outrageous lies. he actually believes that people will fall for them ,but he's only fooling himself. what a roach. please, may he rot in prison.

    Posted by: Watching Closely Location: Shawano County on Aug 23, 2008 at 11:31 PM
    Eisenberg says, "...(Cohen) is almost never in Shawano. Never, ever...." Hey, which is it? "almost never" or "never, ever"? THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!!! Make up your mind! GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER!! Speak the truth! Either Eisenberg is lying, or Cohen and his cronies are lying to Eisenberg. Cohen, your lies stink!! And teaching at a "university" in India?? Puh-lease!! Lies, lies and more lies.

    Posted by: red rebel Location: shawano on Aug 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM
    just found out that the Ramas are taking over the Ponderosa the shawano on tuesday i dont know how they can stay open as a ponderosa if Rama cant get a licence to serve food or booze i know one thing i'll NEVER eat at RAMAROSA!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Anonymous Location: Shawano on Aug 22, 2008 at 08:25 PM
    I wasn't too surprised to see that Alan Eisenberg is their new attorney, he, also has all the vacant properties that they own up for sale with his real estate firm. Wonder what kind of deal he cut with them as the oil company that loaned them the money last year to pay their back taxes has gone after SIST for never paying them back. Apparently, SIST had put up several of the homes they own around Shawano as collateral for the loan. They had originally had all these grand plans but not a one has come to fruit. Also, why did the price of the small conference room at the Americinn double in price when they took over? Then if you use it for anything and need a VCR, actually have to hook it up yourself after they look all over the hotel to find one? They think they own Frailing Rd. I once stopped on Frailing and 47 to rescue a painted turtle that had been injured and they actually videotaped me going out to pick it up. She survived and was released back into the wild.

    Posted by: Anon on Aug 22, 2008 at 06:05 PM
    Is that Eisenberg in the video above, in the courtroom? Doesn't quite look like him, though I can't say I know what he looks like from the back.

    Posted by: Elina on Aug 22, 2008 at 05:31 PM
    Actually we are paying. All that money we gave him over the years piled up, then I assume perhaps added interest though I don't think he was that smart. Either way, we are still paying as we didn't get paid back. Everything he has spent money on came from us. I wish I had been smart right after I got out and sued his sorry butt.

    Posted by: to Elina on Aug 22, 2008 at 04:42 PM
    The taxpayer isn't paying for Rama's attorney just YET. But maybe soon we'll be paying Rama's lawyer bills after he declares bankruptcy and gets charged with all the crimes he's committed and claims he's a pauper and qualifes for a public defender.

    Posted by: Anon Location: West Coast, USA on Aug 22, 2008 at 04:21 PM
    Eisenberg: "If he lives in Shawano, I'd like to know where he lives in Shawano", said Eisenberg. "He has no residence in Shawano." Eisenberg: On Frailing Road in Shawano WI you will see a three story tarp covered structure and that is your client's residence in Shawano. That is where he lives when he comes on the weekends to extort money from his followers and teach Ramabonics. Regardless of who owns it, Rama, his wife, his "non-profit" organization, that is his residence and you should be doing your own research verifying the truth of your clients statements before repeating these lies in court. As for your "illness", another lie and great delaying tactic. I'm sure we'll be seeing more varieties of them as this case progresses.

    Posted by: E on Aug 22, 2008 at 03:38 PM
    Somehow I doubt that Naomi, etc... are scared, after everything she has done and been involved in... However, if she, Linda, and Abigail are frightened, they can just stop supporting this a--h---. As for Rama ever, and I mean ever, showing up in a courtroom, if so ordered? A freakin' miracle! The world just might end. Of course, then he could be held in contempt and physically grabbed!! Woohooo! Drop the soap!!!!

    Posted by: Elina on Aug 22, 2008 at 03:31 PM
    So, 3 attorneys? I wonder if they didn't want to be Rama's slaves. Or, did he rack up the bills on them and piss them off. Regardless, provides even less clout. What the heck is Eisenberg doing with him? Or any attorney in the real world? He doesn't have a clue!! And my money is paying for him!!!! All of us are paying for him.

    Posted by: Anonymous on Aug 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM
    naomi, linda, abigail, you know you are lying! get outa there before you purjure yourself in court and go to jail for it. rama can not save you from the law

    Posted by: Rama's Sidekick Location: Baltimore on Aug 22, 2008 at 12:06 AM
    Avraham is almost never in Shawano...never ever. WOW! That's such a blatant lie it's funny!

    Posted by: FreeFromShawano on Aug 21, 2008 at 10:51 PM
    Eisenberg later explained Cohen's role in more detail, saying, "He's an officer of S.I.S.T. I believe he's the chairman of the board. But he's almost never in Shawano. Never, ever. He has an office in India where he teaches at a University, but his primary residence is in Baltimore." So besides being a neurosurgeon, Rama is now an instructor at a university in India??? And he's never ever in Shawano??? We were taught that under no circumstances should you ever lie to "the man of God" or your future will be cursed. Is there a new rule now that "the man of God" and his representitives can fabricate the most absurd lies imaginable and get by with it?

    Posted by: Satan's Pet Location: Watching DR. CHESTER THE MOLESTER IN BALTIMORE on Aug 21, 2008 at 09:34 PM
    Well, well, what do we have? More manipulation of the system by Dr. DUMBO! The fake jew, fake hindu, fake christian? What are you thou great SADHU? Sounds like the pig that missed the train. Why dont you take those blonde Norwegian girls you are hiding behind and hand them over to someone that might be able to save them from your deceptive felony traps you are setting. You are a coward dr. DOOLITTLE! A slimy piece of doo doo that i find after my dog takes her morning walk. Wake up you DUMBO Cohen parrots. Smell the roses, or for that matter the aftermath of my puppy's morning walk. He is a professor? Hmmm, of what? Child molestation? Tax evasion? Extortion? Blackmail? Fraud? He is a sick twisted psychopath! Come forth from your tunnels you coward "jew", "hindu" SADHU! Get a life. Your lifelines's skirts are flapping in the breaze and i can see your dot head. DOWN WITH THE FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Fed up Location: in Shawano on Aug 21, 2008 at 07:47 PM
    Rama and his attorney and puppets are liars!!! No reason to come to Shawano except to come to personally extort money from his people and to sell them his outdated food from his basement on Frailing Road. So Eisenberg, what is Rama capable of teaching in India since he is a college dropout? The Holy Religion of Destroying Families? When the last time Rama was in India? I don't think he's been in India this whole decade! LIARS! Rama doesn't want to appear in court because he is a COWARD and can't face the poor lady he smeared.

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